[This digest is the copyright of the Move "Useless Information" Mailing List. Re-publication or re-distribution of "Useless Information" content, in any form whatsoever, is expressly prohibited without prior written consent.] USELESS INFORMATION The Move Mailing List Digest Issue #355 May 19, 2002 In this issue: * Carl Wayne to guest DJ on BBC WM this Tuesday! * Mojo reviews Roy's NYC shows * Song Of The Week (week of 5/13): "Come Back Karen" * Pastiche me the ketchup please. * I heard the Grass Grow in NYC * Nancy Sinatra "He's A California Man" * Website about Roy's work * Fillmore? (cont.) * 'allo Susie? * Move video * Update: Carl's Radio WM radio show * ADMIN: "Klez" virus ============================================================== To POST TO THE LIST: Send an e-mail to: move-list@eskimo.com Useful Web addresses: TheMoveOnline: http://www.themoveonline.com Official Roy Wood site: http://www.roywood.co.uk Face The Music Online: http://www.ftmusic.com Join the ELO List: http://www.eskimo.com/~noanswer/showdown.html Move List Info & Archives: http://www.eskimo.com/~noanswer/movelist.html TO UNSUBSCRIBE: Send an e-mail to move-digest-request@eskimo.com with the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes) in the subject line ============================================================== Subject: Carl Wayne to guest DJ on BBC WM this Tuesday Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 19:20:05 -0700 From: Lynn Hoskins Carl Wayne will be guest DJ on the Ed Doolan Show on BBC Radio WM (West Midlands) 95.6 FM this Tuesday, May 21, 9am-12noon. Well, it's not so much that he's going to be the guest DJ as HE'S TAKING OVER! Join Carl as he goes on a musical journey, returning to his Birmingham roots to celebrate and pay tribute to the musicians, unsung heroes, world famous bands and characters that helped put "Birmingham Beat" on the world stage. Along with his partners in crime, Rob Caiger and Birmingham music historian Laurie Hornsby (author of "Brum Rocked!"), Carl will be celebrating the music of the West Midlands. Special guests from Carl's career will be dropping in (or rudely awakened by phone) for a chat. He'll be sharing memories and playing lots of great West Midlands music from the days of Brum Beat right up to The Osborne's and Ozzy's latest single. The BBC did prepare a script for Carl to follow, but in typical Move fashion, the axeman ripped it to shreds. Imagine that! As Carl, Rob and Laurie are providing ALL the music, expect familiar and some very unfamiliar sounds from Carl Wayne & The Vikings, Mike Sheridan & The Nightriders, The Move, The Idle Race, The Moody Blues, ELO, Roy Wood, Wizzard, Slade, Steve Gibbons, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, UB40, The Specials, The Wonder Stuff and a lot more, including some rare material never previously heard before. If you've got any requests for music, please get them to Rob at face.the.music@dial.pipex.com as soon as possible on Monday. For those of you in the West Midlands area, please ring into the show. Sadly, BBC Radio WM does not broadcast over the Internet, but the show will be taped for future broadcast. ********** Subject: Mojo reviews Roy's NYC shows Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 15:56:24 -0700 From: Lynn Hoskins Hope you all enjoy this rather exceptional review of Roy's NYC shows, written by a rather exceptional music critic. ---- Mojo Magazine June, 2002 Roy Wood's Army New York City, Village Underground In his first US concert in 28 years, the ex-Move-ELO-Wizzard man invades New York with an army of women. "I'm a songwriter rather than a performer," Roy Wood confessed, then did his best to show it. Halfway through his first US concert since 1974, the eccentric master of British psychedelic pop and big band glam said he needed to rest his voice and handed the spotlight to his female back-up singers for a cabaret whirl through the Fontella Bass hit Rescue Me. It's a fair bet that Wood hasn't played a club this small since The Move's blazing nights at The Marquee. Confronted with three decades of pent-up yankee love in this basement room, he proved there's no substitute for hearing 10 of British pop's biggest and brightest hits played and sung by the composer, in a youthful tenor that betrayed few of his 55 years. There were three UK Number 1s and another eight Top 10s, if you include the Brontosaurus intro, virtually none of which he played here with Wizzard in '74. The Move only visited the US once, in 1969, and Wood's last New York showing was a six-song tease at a '90s benefit, backed by Cheap Trick. So it was easy to forgive any awkwardness here. This was my record collection - come to life. Wood's specialty is ecstatic pastiche: huge echoes of Spector in Angel Fingers and Forever; a jolt of Scotty Moore guitar amid the Ellington-via-Alan Freed brass of Ball Park Incident. But inside his library of references, Wood wrestles joy from melancholy. He writes and sings best about dancing on the precipice of madness and looking for a ray of light in the rain, as he did in the Move hits I Can Hear The Grass Grow and the sad, stirring Blackberry Way - perfect specimens of grand pop as great medicine. Wood still has magic to spare. He ended, two days after the start of spring, with the exuberant unseasonable I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day. But when I walked outside, as the taped children's choir faded ("When the snowman brings the snow...") it was snowing. Perfect. David Fricke Set List: Brontosaurus overture / California Man / Ball Park Incident / Fire Brigade / The House Of Love / Kiss Me Goodnight Boadicea / Medley: Angel Fingers, Forever, Flowers In The Rain / Rescue Me / Roy's Revenge / Big Girl's Blues / Are You Ready To Rock? / See My Baby Jive / Blackberry Way / I Can Hear The Grass Grow / I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day ********** Subject: Re: Mojo reviews Roy's NYC shows Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 16:41:59 -0700 From: John DeSilva From David Fricke's review: > Wood still has magic to spare. He ended, two days after the start of > spring, with the exuberant unseasonable I Wish It Could Be Christmas > Every Day. But when I walked outside, as the taped children's choir > faded ("When the snowman brings the snow...") it was snowing. Perfect. It's interesting to me that Fricke, who I believe is still music editor for Rolling Stone magazine, has this review published in Mojo magazine rather than his main employers' (Mojo's a better mag anyway). Great review - he said a lot of things that I wished I had said ("This was my record collection - come to life" "Wood's specialty is ecstatic pastiche" "Wood wrestles joy from melancholy"). This is an informative, thoughtful review about the man and his music - compare this to the Christgau review to see the gulf between a music fan and a self-promoter. Thanks Lynn - JD San Jose, CA ********** Subject: Re: Song Of The Week: "Come Back Karen" Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 09:34:30 -0700 From: "Michael J. Cross" >The other tracks are all 'in the style of' the early R & R artists but >this number is as Joe says 'a pretty straight lift'. I dunno Chris....I would say that "Everyday I Wonder" is a pretty straight lift from Del Shannon's "Runaway" as well. Did Roy "overpastiche" on "Eddie"? Mike Cross Rochester, NY ********** Subject: Pastiche me the ketchup please. Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 10:32:11 -0700 From: "Doyle, Joe" From: Michael J. Cross >Did Roy "overpastiche" on "Eddie"? Michael, wash your mouth out with soap for such blasphemy, you naughty boy!! :) Remember that Eddie was originally going to be a double with Jazz, Pop and Country, as well as the classic R&R type songs that eventually saw light of day. It was released as the album that it is to get an album out. Bearing that in mind, for me the thing is a concept album to the extent that it is a 50's/early 60's pastiche in the same vein, and as brilliantly executed, as The Mother's Reuben and the Jets. How do you over pastiche a pastiche? Whoops! Burnt the pastry. Eddie's a fantastic album, and none the worse for the "lifts" as well as the pastiches. I totally agree with you regarding Runaway - which for me, is actually better than the original (the same, just better......). Somebody (I believe my fellow dullard, Chris Roberts) said that You Got Me Runnin' is the worse track on Eddie. I love the thing and do believe that if it had been the single, rather than TITSOML, we may have seen some chart action. Maybe then, Wizzard's Wizzo would have seen light of day, maybe then, well maybe, well maybe not, maybe Roy should have just used the bullet left for Don Arden (Crazy Jeans). Smiley & Co. got YGMR into the top 20 or 30, I believe, and that was before Wizzard's doomed single release too. They certainly stole Roy's thunder on that one (I suppose he cried into the beer he got with his royalties...). ********** Subject: Re: Pastiche me the ketchup please. Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 15:57:11 -0700 From: "Michael J. Cross" Joe "Crazy Jeans" Doyle wrote: >Eddie's a fantastic album, and none the worse for the "lifts" as well >as the pastiches. Oh, I wholeheartedly agree! My parents were big fans of 50's music, and I remember well the 50's revivalist craze in the 70's and how much I liked all that stuff in those dim years before I turned on to ELO. Fast-forward to the last half of the 80's when I first got to hear Eddie... I remember how much I loved it, and I figured my parents would too. So, I put a tape together for them featuring Eddie and the Falcons plus some T-Rex, Duane Eddy, and some Stray Cats. They did indeed like it, and to this day I've never told them that the bulk of that tape was good ol' Roy & co. See, my papa despises "English pop" and felt much the same way about the Beatles as I feel about Michael Jackson or Brittney Spears. >Somebody (I believe my fellow dullard, Chris Roberts) said that You Got Me Runnin' is the worse track on Eddie. I love the thing and do believe that if it had been the single, rather than TITSOML, we may >have seen some chart action. Singles? Chart action? Heh heh, not in the states, my brother. I can't think of a tune on Eddie that I don't like. YGMR reminds me of Carl Perkins! Best to you All, Mike Cross, Rochester, NY ********** Subject: Re: Song Of The Week: "Come Back Karen" Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 15:56:42 -0700 From: "Bob Coulter" It's interesting that people consider this a ringer for both Paul Anka's "Diana" and Neil Sedaka's "Oh Carol". I'm not sure if I know the Sedaka song or not (was it as popular as "Calendar Girl", which I'm very familiar with), but CBK is supposed to be very close. I know "Diana" very well and CBK is also very close to it in melody (although CBK's a bit slower), instrumentation, even some identical lyrics ("Oh my darling, oh my lover"). I wonder if "Oh Carol" is itself a ringer of "Diana". Coincidentally enough, there was a Paul Anka Biography on A&E Monday night. I had no idea that Anka wrote all his early hit singles himself when he was in his teens. (Another Anka bit that relates here is that the woman who sang the duet "You're Having My Baby" with Anka, Odia Coates, did a cover version of "Showdown". Okay, maybe that relates more to the ELO list!) But back to CBK and Eddy in general, I like the song. It's not my favourite on the album (that would be "You Got Me Runnin'"). For me, Eddy is my favourite Wizzard album. It has a strong focus, and Roy as a producer is very disciplined here. Bob Coulter, Mississauga, Ont. ********** Subject: Re: Song Of The Week: "Come Back Karen" Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 16:42:05 -0700 From: Richard Messum Lyrically, it's a dog: you have to work really hard to figure out what "I'll mend your broken heart / just like the one you gave to me" actually means. Of course, no-one expects teenage love songs (or pastiches thereof) to be poetry. But one would think that Roy could be a little more coherent. To suggest an alternative, quoting Spooky Tooth: "you broke my heart, so i busted your jaw." Like the song, though; love the album. ********** Subject: I heard the Grass Grow in NYC Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 12:03:07 -0700 From: Lynn Hoskins It's funny, a number of people on the Move List have written to me asking for my review of the NYC shows, knowing that I'd never seen a Roy Wood live performance. They thought for sure I would have been among the first to post about it. I've actually made several attempts at writing up something for the list, but it's been a real struggle to come up with the words that properly describe how it felt to be there. What I felt was...joy. Sheer, pure, radiant joy. Roy is an icon, and it just isn't very often that you get to be in the same room with an icon. When he took the stage on Thursday night, I'm sure a lot of others said the same thing to themselves... "Wow. It's Roy Wood." (There was just nothing more to say.) I felt a little overwhelmed at first, and then I broke out into a huge smile. I looked around the room, and there were grins everywhere. There were also looks of disbelief, like people just couldn't comprehend the fact that they were watching Roy Wood (ROY WOOD?!?!?) in New York performing "California Man"! Right there on stage! Just a few feet away! I heard one guy say, "This f**king blows my mind!!" Part of me wished it was less big band and more rock band. But the majority of me thoroughly enjoyed the grandness of it all. Songs like "Kiss Me Goodnight Boadicea," "Big Girl's Blues" and "Are You Ready To Rock?" sound positively glorious done big band style. And Roy's singing was INCREDIBLE. The one song that blew MY mind was "I Can Hear The Grass Grow." I've listened to the original Move version a million times. But Roy's big band arrangement was magnificent. It blew the roof off the place. I loved it when the Naylor Twins sang the Ace part ("Get a hold of yourself now baby...") The horns sounded so mighty and bright. But it was Roy's guitar playing that boggled my mind. How in the world does he create that amazing (odd?) sound? It was twisted perfection. Looking around the room, you could see people in their 40's head-banging to the "odd" guitar parts. And I think there were a few who were doing the pogo. It was such a powerful presentation of this classic Move number, I really doubt that I'll ever again be satisfied with the original. Those who have seen Roy Wood's Army know how funny he is. This was my favorite bit of humor: At the Friday show, the crowd began to chant, "ROY! ROY! ROY! ROY! ROY!" Roy, who had been getting his guitar ready for the next song, finally looked up and said, "What a stupid name." I must have laughed for ten minutes. I think I might still be laughing. It was such a wonderful feeling, singing along to all my favorite songs, like "Blackberry Way" and "I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day." And being there with so many fans from this list - it was all so magical. I will always cherish the opportunity I had to see Roy Wood in concert. It was a little surreal, to be honest. But after I met Roy, and after we talked, it was no longer surreal. It was very cool. :) ********** Subject: Nancy Sinatra "He's A California Man" Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 00:00:25 -0700 From: PrimoChuck (Charlie) I just got back from Amoeba Records in Hollywood where Nancy Sinatra did a free 40 minute concert in this large record store that features a small stage for occasional in house concerts. Her second song of the set was "California Man." After hearing the Roy Wood Army's version in NYC, all versions I am sure would pale to Roy's. Nancy Sinatra's version does have some merit, however. Her voice may not be the strongest (her microphone had a nice echo added), but her vocals were spirited and her backing band which included wrecking crew vet Don Randi on piano really rocked. Nancy added some nice gestures to the song and when she comes to the lyric "when he cracks his heels" she marches in 'These Boots are Made for Walking" style. Her version on the CD has less of an edge on it than the live version. During her 40 minutes plus set she only did two songs from her California Girl CD and Californi! a Man was one of the two she played and one of the highlights of the set. Nonetheless, more royalties for Roy is always good news. ********** Subject: Re: Nancy Sinatra "He's A California Man" Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 09:22:05 -0700 From: "Tyler C.Sherman" I wonder if Nancy Sinatra ever does "Flowers In The Rain" in her live performances? She recorded a version of this back in the 70s. Pretty tepid arrangement. Glad to hear her version of "C. Man" has some spunk to it. Being the completist that I am I'll probably pick this up. As Charlie says, more royalties for Roy. Wizzards, Tyler ********** Subject: Re: Nancy Sinatra "He's A California Man" Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 09:22:33 -0700 From: PrimoChuck (Charlie) Just wanted to add a couple things: Like I said, the Nancy Sinatra live version of California Man had more of an edge than the CD version (I don't think this version will be liked by all people on the list). Perhaps, the basic problem is Nancy could have used some help with the vocals on the chorus. The Liner notes state ".. the Chuck Berry-influenced 'California Man'" which I have never thought of this song as owing much to Chuck Berry. ********** Subject: Re: Nancy Sinatra "He's A California Man" Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 11:57:50 -0700 From: "sjk" Charlie wrote: >The Liner notes state ".. the Chuck Berry-influenced 'California Man'" >which I have never thought of this song as owing much to Chuck Berry. Chuck Berry no. Jerry Lee Lewis yes. ********** Subject: Website about Roy's work Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 12:26:19 -0700 From: Roy Cooke I came across this link on the web: http://starling.rinet.ru/music/roywood.htm It is a site about roy where the writer gives a very honest interpretation of roys work. Well worth reading. ********** Subject: Re: Website about Roy's work Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 15:57:32 -0700 From: "Jeff Cooper" Hmmm. Looks good. The same site has a review of ELO. Haven't read it yet (just found it) but its probably worth a look-see at: http://starling.rinet.ru/music/elo.htm ********** Subject: Re: Fillmore Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 21:48:30 -0700 From: Mattbobatt apatters@eurock.com writes: >When I saw the Move LIVE in SF Carl was with the band, acted as a great >front man, and did all the lead vocals as I remember (it was a long time >ago). Hi-- did Carl sing lead vocals even on songs like (Here We Go Round) The Lemon Tree, Fire Brigade, and Omnibus? Why wouldn't Roy be the one to sing those, like he did on their records? ********** Subject: 'allo Susie? Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 12:12:40 -0700 From: Plastic Ono Dream i think "carl wayne" sings on the chorus clearly, but the snarling growling verses are all "roy wood". i wouldn't expect "live at the filmore" anytime soon though. ********** Subject: Move video Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 15:58:24 -0700 From: "paulynnbaker" Hi all, I am sure this has probably been discussed before but as I am new to your group I hope you can help me. A few years ago I had some footage of the Move performing "Fire Brigade". Unfortunately it went missing. I would dearly love to see it again or any other Move footage so can anyone help ? Many thanks Paul Baker, Kent ********** Subject: Update: Re: Carl Wayne to guest DJ on BBC WM this Tuesday Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 17:46:31 -0700 From: Lynn Hoskins >Carl Wayne will be guest DJ on the Ed Doolan Show on BBC Radio WM (West >Midlands) 95.6 FM this Tuesday, May 21, 9am-12noon. Apparently Carl should have brought his axe to the pre-show meeting. ("You want us to cut out HOW much music??!?") It seems the BBC want him to interview Peter Hain, the UK's Minister for Europe, before any music gets played. I guess it would be kind of hard to tell Mr. Hain he can't be on the show. ;) Peter Hain is known for his sense of humor, so he and Carl ought to mix it up quite well. That interview is expected to go about 45 minutes, then it's on to the music. Lots of rare stuff, along with well-known classics. But because there won't be time to do the show that was planned, the emphasis will be on the rare stuff. There may be other non-music guests Carl will be asked to interview, but the music will be played throughout. Just wanted to let you know in case you tune in during a charity interview of some kind and think Carl's tribute to West Midlands music has been cancelled. It hasn't. Keep listening. The last half hour will be ALL music. With Rob in the control booth, you don't have to wonder if the listening audience will be treated to some exclusives. If you like what you hear, please be sure to call BBC Radio WM and ask for more. Call both during and after the show. Contact details are below. BBC Radio WM Telephone: 0121 432 2000 Email: radio.wm@bbc.co.uk Fax: 0121 472 3174 ********** Subject: ADMIN: "Klez" virus Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 02:46:47 -0700 From: Lynn Hoskins I've been getting a lot of mail about this latest mass-mailing worm virus called "Klez", so let me assure everyone that the Move List does not accept attachments and you are NOT receiving the virus from the Move List. The virus is "spoofing" the list address. Please read up on this virus so you'll what "e-mail spoofing" is, and how your confidential information may be sent out to everyone in your address book if your computer has this virus. You may get an e-mail with a virus attachment that is addressed from move-list@eskimo.com. The virus is pulling that address from your Microsoft Outlook Express address book and sending it back to you. You may get an e-mail from YOUR address, with an attachment. This is either being sent from your own computer, or from the computer of someone you correspond with that has the virus. The virus uses random Subject lines, and sends random attachments. If you have a computer that uses Windows, and if Microsoft Outlook Express is your e-mail program, I can't urge you enough to invest in anti-virus software as soon as possible. Both the Symantec and McAffee websites have detailed information about this virus (characteristics, indications of infection, removal instructions, threat level, etc.) http://securityresponse.symantec.com/ http://www.mcaffee.com In addition, you should visit the Microsoft Outlook website to obtain a vulnerability patch: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-020.asp. W32.Klez.gen@mm End of public service announcement... ;) End of Useless Information #355 ******************************* [This digest is the copyright of the Move "Useless Information" Mailing List. Re-publication or re-distribution of "Useless Information" content, in any form whatsoever, is expressly prohibited without prior written consent.]