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vent-users-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 100
Today's Topics:
FOOTBALL PICKS '98
Trach Problems
Re: Trach Problems
Re: Trach Problems
Re: Trach Problems
Re: Trach Problems
Re: Trach Problems
Re: Trach Problems
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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:35:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Ricsport(AT)aol.com
To: Vent-Users(AT)eskimo.com
Subject: FOOTBALL PICKS '98
Message-ID: <971119173535_-1106286673(AT)mrin84.mail.aol.com>
Hi,
Do you like NFL football? Do you watch NFL football? Do you
keep track of the teams as the season goes on? Do you pick teams
to win games? Would you be interested in playing a "Football
Picks" contest? If you would like to paricipate in a league for
1998, please e-mail me at Ricsport(AT)aol.com for further details.
If you know others that might be interested, please give them
my e-mail address.
Thanks,
Rick
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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 21:35:05 -0600
From: annette <nete1(AT)midwest.net>
To: vent-users(AT)eskimo.com
Subject: Trach Problems
Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971119213505.00687550(AT)midwest.net>
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I am still dealing with some defective trachs. Since mid September I have
tried 5 Shiley size 6 cuffless trachs. Each one has had severe leakage
between the trach tube and the inner cannula. The only way it is sealed is
by using a rubber band. It is very frustrating. My medical supplier has
talked to Shiley several times. So called Quality Control at Shiley has
narrowed the problem to what I described. (So I am not crazy), But they
cannot figure out way it is happening.
We have looked into other companies..but had little luck from some reason.
We did get a Simms Portex trach today. I haven't tried it because I not
sure I like it. Does any of you vent users have such a trach and tell me
what you think of it? It just looks different from what I am used to...
I could use some help..I am becoming very very frustrated with this whole
situation.
Thanks...
Annette Hanna
nete1(AT)midwest.net
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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 21:06:05 -0700
From: Cody Namesnik <cody(AT)netzone.com>
To: vent-users(AT)eskimo.com
Subject: Re: Trach Problems
Message-ID: <3473B72C.FDB5894A(AT)netzone.com>
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Hi Annette,
I wrote to you about Bivona trachs........ I don't know if you visited My Web
Page or Not.? Http://www.netzone.com/~cody/prtime.htm ,,, Their Is a picture
of me & My Trachs !!! My Bivona trachs. are custom in which I mean custom
curve, custom length specified my my Doc... Also they make my Flange Pediatric
Y style! Annette maybe that's what you might need, for comfort of course! I
like it best, that's why I still get em' Y flange.. About being too soft, You
would have too be the "Linda Blair" The Exorcist "Movie"! to bend it shut! Im
not saying this to be an As* Hole or A Jerk, "I don't Wanna get In A Rant!"
but
Doctors have never had trachs or even have mental capacity to care how the
patients feels, by rule of thumb most Doctors think That Patients w/ trachs
are Paranoid Babies! So its Our jobs to TELL them "What The HELL WE WANT!"
because we are the Ones that have to live with IT! But that's Just my
opinion!!
annette wrote:
> I am still dealing with some defective trachs. Since mid September I have
> tried 5 Shiley size 6 cuffless trachs. Each one has had severe leakage
> between the trach tube and the inner cannula. The only way it is sealed is
> by using a rubber band. It is very frustrating. My medical supplier has
> talked to Shiley several times. So called Quality Control at Shiley has
> narrowed the problem to what I described. (So I am not crazy), But they
> cannot figure out way it is happening.
>
> We have looked into other companies..but had little luck from some reason.
> We did get a Simms Portex trach today. I haven't tried it because I not
> sure I like it. Does any of you vent users have such a trach and tell me
> what you think of it? It just looks different from what I am used to...
>
> I could use some help..I am becoming very very frustrated with this whole
> situation.
>
> Thanks...
> Annette Hanna
> nete1(AT)midwest.net
-- Cody Namesnik http://www.netzone.com/~cody cody(AT)netzone.com------------------------------
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 22:40:01 -0600 From: annette <nete1(AT)midwest.net> To: vent-users(AT)eskimo.com Subject: Re: Trach Problems Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971119224001.0068bab0(AT)midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 09:06 PM 11/19/97 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Annette, > >I wrote to you about Bivona trachs........ I don't know if you visited My Web >Page or Not.? Http://www.netzone.com/~cody/prtime.htm ,,, Their Is a picture >of me & My Trachs !!! My Bivona trachs. are custom in which I mean custom >curve, custom length specified my my Doc... Also they make my Flange Pediatric >Y style! Annette maybe that's what you might need, for comfort of course! I >like it best, that's why I still get em' Y flange.. About being too soft, You >would have too be the "Linda Blair" The Exorcist "Movie"! to bend it shut! Im >not saying this to be an As* Hole or A Jerk, "I don't Wanna get In A Rant!" but >Doctors have never had trachs or even have mental capacity to care how the >patients feels, by rule of thumb most Doctors think That Patients w/ trachs >are Paranoid Babies! So its Our jobs to TELL them "What The HELL WE WANT!" >because we are the Ones that have to live with IT! But that's Just my opinion!! > >annette wrote: > >> I am still dealing with some defective trachs. Since mid September I have >> tried 5 Shiley size 6 cuffless trachs. Each one has had severe leakage >> between the trach tube and the inner cannula. The only way it is sealed is >> by using a rubber band. It is very frustrating. My medical supplier has >> talked to Shiley several times. So called Quality Control at Shiley has >> narrowed the problem to what I described. (So I am not crazy), But they >> cannot figure out way it is happening. >> >> We have looked into other companies..but had little luck from some reason. >> We did get a Simms Portex trach today. I haven't tried it because I not >> sure I like it. Does any of you vent users have such a trach and tell me >> what you think of it? It just looks different from what I am used to... >> >> I could use some help..I am becoming very very frustrated with this whole >> situation. >> >> Thanks... >> Annette Hanna >> nete1(AT)midwest.net > > > >-- >Cody Namesnik >http://www.netzone.com/~cody >cody(AT)netzone.com Cody.. I remember you writing me about Bivona trachs. My vent supplier was told that (by who I don't know) that these particular trachs aren't made anymore.
I guess I am going to have to take matters in my own hand and deal with this trach stuff. Cody...I will look at your web page..
Thanks.. annette
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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 22:48:00 -0600 From: annette <nete1(AT)midwest.net> To: vent-users(AT)eskimo.com Subject: Re: Trach Problems Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971119224800.0068e8b4(AT)midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 09:06 PM 11/19/97 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Annette, > >I wrote to you about Bivona trachs........ I don't know if you visited My Web >Page or Not.? Http://www.netzone.com/~cody/prtime.htm ,,, Their Is a picture >of me & My Trachs !!! My Bivona trachs. are custom in which I mean custom >curve, custom length specified my my Doc... Also they make my Flange Pediatric >Y style! Annette maybe that's what you might need, for comfort of course! I >like it best, that's why I still get em' Y flange.. About being too soft, You >would have too be the "Linda Blair" The Exorcist "Movie"! to bend it shut! Im >not saying this to be an As* Hole or A Jerk, "I don't Wanna get In A Rant!" but >Doctors have never had trachs or even have mental capacity to care how the >patients feels, by rule of thumb most Doctors think That Patients w/ trachs >are Paranoid Babies! So its Our jobs to TELL them "What The HELL WE WANT!" >because we are the Ones that have to live with IT! But that's Just my opinion!! > >annette wrote: > >> I am still dealing with some defective trachs. Since mid September I have >> tried 5 Shiley size 6 cuffless trachs. Each one has had severe leakage >> between the trach tube and the inner cannula. The only way it is sealed is >> by using a rubber band. It is very frustrating. My medical supplier has >> talked to Shiley several times. So called Quality Control at Shiley has >> narrowed the problem to what I described. (So I am not crazy), But they >> cannot figure out way it is happening. >> >> We have looked into other companies..but had little luck from some reason. >> We did get a Simms Portex trach today. I haven't tried it because I not >> sure I like it. Does any of you vent users have such a trach and tell me >> what you think of it? It just looks different from what I am used to... >> >> I could use some help..I am becoming very very frustrated with this whole >> situation. >> >> Thanks... >> Annette Hanna >> nete1(AT)midwest.net > > > >-- >Cody Namesnik >http://www.netzone.com/~cody >cody(AT)netzone.com > > > >
Cody.. just checkin your web page...and it's guestbook. Did Jay Leno really sign your guest book..if so, COOL!
Annette
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 09:07:18 -0600 (CST) From: NORA PENA <NP26183(AT)swt.edu> To: vent-users(AT)eskimo.com Subject: Re: Trach Problems Message-id: <01IQ870A00E09YNP68(AT)swt.edu> Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:19:49 From: Dan Vachon <drv(AT)ici.net> To: vent-users(AT)eskimo.com Subject: Re: Trach Problems Message-Id: <3.0.4.16.19971120111949.2b8f0184(AT)mail.ici.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 09:06 PM 11/19/97 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Annette, > >I wrote to you about Bivona trachs........ I don't know if you visited My Web >Page or Not.? Http://www.netzone.com/~cody/prtime.htm ,,, Their Is a picture >of me & My Trachs !!! My Bivona trachs. are custom in which I mean custom >curve, custom length specified my my Doc... Also they make my Flange Pediatric >Y style! Annette maybe that's what you might need, for comfort of course! I >like it best, that's why I still get em' Y flange.. About being too soft, You >would have too be the "Linda Blair" The Exorcist "Movie"! to bend it shut! Im >not saying this to be an As* Hole or A Jerk, "I don't Wanna get In A Rant!" but >Doctors have never had trachs or even have mental capacity to care how the >patients feels, by rule of thumb most Doctors think That Patients w/ trachs >are Paranoid Babies! So its Our jobs to TELL them "What The HELL WE WANT!" >because we are the Ones that have to live with IT! But that's Just my opinion!! > >annette wrote: > >> I am still dealing with some defective trachs. Since mid September I have >> tried 5 Shiley size 6 cuffless trachs. Each one has had severe leakage > > > >-- >Cody Namesnik >http://www.netzone.com/~cody >cody(AT)netzone.com > > Cody,
You are sooo right!! I had a trach for a year and the main reason I had it removed was because of the discomfort. I have a severe scoliosis including my neck area. The regular trachs irritated my trachea so much that I could not turn my head from side to side without the trach causing me to cough and gag. I wish I had known about custom trachs then. Also, you are right about doctors not really being concerned about your comfort. They have the attitude - deal with it - it makes our job much easier. If I ever need a trach again, I'll know what to do. Thanks again. It's good to know some is on our side.
Dan
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:14:28 -0600 From: Eric Olson <oly(AT)execpc.com> To: vent-users(AT)eskimo.com Subject: Re: Trach Problems Message-ID: <3474B644.6BF5(AT)execpc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
annette wrote: > We have looked into other companies..but had little luck from some reason. > We did get a Simms Portex trach today. I haven't tried it because I not > sure I like it. Does any of you vent users have such a trach and tell me > what you think of it? It just looks different from what I am used to... > > I could use some help..I am becoming very very frustrated with this whole > situation.
Annette,
I used a portex trach for many years. The disposable inner canula fits completely inside the outer canula and the swivel adapter connects to the outer canula. Since the inner canula fits inside the outer canula, you won't have the problem of air leaking between the two canulas. With Shiley tubes, the swivel adapter connects to the inner canula (if I remember correctly.) The Portex inner canulas have a ring on the end for pulling the inner canula out when you change inner canulas. I have swithced to a Bivona. I didn't switch because there was something wrong with the Portex per se, it was because the hard plastic tube was rubbing the inside of my trachea and causing it to bleed. That would have happened with any hard tube. The only problem I have with the Bivona tubes is that they don't have an inner canula.
Eric
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